How can the pets do the things they do?

[guillermogage]

I know that thread is kind of vague, but I was wondering if we here could have a discussion about the extent of animal intelligence and human-like activities that they do.

Specifically, there's been cartoons where talking animals have lots of material items and visit different locations for the purpose of making the situations fun, without the show being concerned with how they are actually able to get this stuff.

For example, where do Zoe and Pepper get all there stuff for the party?
The animal characters on this show are pets, not animals with human opportunities to get stuff.

Do the human characters literally provide them with all this stuff?

Obviously some human characters, like maybe the main 7's owners are able to tell that animals like doing human activities and give them stuff, but on the extent of what happened in "Frenemies"?

I also understand that some of this stuff is feasible from a real-world perspective, because it has been pretty much established that Blythe and her dad Roger are pretty well off and live comfortable lives. After all, she is able to afford hobbies like pet fashion, and drives a scooter. Seems like her dad is a well-paid for his pilot profession. Which is why they can live in the area of Downtown City that they do; Downtown City does seem like a place with a higher cost of living.

Blythe is very possibly the richest kid in her circle of friends, (with the Biskits being super-wealthy) so that makes it extra great how nice she still is.

[Ha ha ha!]

I think that the pets are get all there toys and various other items that humans use from their owners.

[Russell]

Yeah, probably.


I don't think Blythe is super rich though.

[Ha ha ha!]

May 10, 2013 9:51:24 GMT -5 Russell said:

Yeah, probably.


I don't think Blythe is super rich though.

I don't think so either

[Biskit Sprinkles]

Yeah, they most likely got them from their owners.

Speaking of which, I wonder how much money it costs to put their pets in the day camp. Considering all the rare animals (unless in the LPS-verse it's normal to have rare animals), it's probably more expensive. Also from all the supplies and such. Who knows, the pets' owners may be really wealthy.

[Zatchiel]

It's a cartoon. I know it's insulting to the audience as well as the medium to say such, but yeah. There is very little explained for how the pets can do what they do or get what they get. Like, how would people react to a panda, tiptoeing around, ribbon dancing with actual grace? Or a mongoose that can perform various feats of magic, including vanishing acts?

The show has very little pragmatic value outside of the lessons and whatnot, most cartoons are guilty of this as well. As for how they got all of the stuff in Frenemies, it's not explained because it isn't considered vital to what the episode was set to convey. Learning that they were too headforemost to consider that it was their friend's party doesn't really require mentioning how they got all of what they had. Would've been hilarious if Blythe or someone else asked where all of the supplies came from, though.

I wouldn't say that the Baxters are rich. They are presumably at least middle class, don't know enough about the others.

There's usually very small practical applicability to most cartoons, because surrealism is typically the most prominent attribute of cartoons as a whole. I'm not opposing you for asking questions or anything, but I figured I should be first to say this.

[Ha ha ha!]

May 10, 2013 12:56:52 GMT -5 Zatchiel said:

It's a cartoon. I know it's insulting to the audience as well as the medium to say such, but yeah. There is very little explained for how the pets can do what they do or get what they get. Like, how would people react to a panda, tiptoeing around, ribbon dancing with actual grace? Or a mongoose that can perform various feats of magic, including vanishing acts?

The show has very little pragmatic value outside of the lessons and whatnot, most cartoons are guilty of this as well. As for how they got all of the stuff in Frenemies, it's not explained because it isn't considered vital to what the episode was set to convey. Learning that they were too headforemost to consider that it was their friend's party doesn't really require mentioning how they got all of what they had. Would've been hilarious if Blythe or someone else asked where all of the supplies came from, though.

I wouldn't say that the Baxters are rich. They are presumably at least middle class, don't know enough about the others.

There's usually very small practical applicability to most cartoons, because surrealism is typically the most prominent attribute of cartoons as a whole. I'm not opposing you for asking questions or anything, but I figured I should be first to say this.

That was very well said and thought out Zatch my friend.

[guillermogage]

May 10, 2013 12:56:52 GMT -5 Zatchiel said:

It's a cartoon. I know it's insulting to the audience as well as the medium to say such, but yeah. There is very little explained for how the pets can do what they do or get what they get. Like, how would people react to a panda, tiptoeing around, ribbon dancing with actual grace? Or a mongoose that can perform various feats of magic, including vanishing acts?

The show has very little pragmatic value outside of the lessons and whatnot, most cartoons are guilty of this as well. As for how they got all of the stuff in Frenemies, it's not explained because it isn't considered vital to what the episode was set to convey. Learning that they were too headforemost to consider that it was their friend's party doesn't really require mentioning how they got all of what they had. Would've been hilarious if Blythe or someone else asked where all of the supplies came from, though.

Yeah, I know that wasn't the point of the episode, the plot just required that some sort of situation be created that was visually funny and would hold people's attention.

It seems like domestic animals have a position with humanity that moreso resembles Pokémon, minus the fighting. We can tell that Blythe is not the only person who knows about animal intelligence, after all, Sharukh is a full-blown movie star that seems to get treated like a human.

It's just that most people cannot literally communicate verbally to the animals, and for some reason the animals cannot write (there's no solid example of them reading, from what I recall). So Blythe is someone who knows a fuller extent of the intelligence that animals have from being able to literally converse with them.

[Russell]

They've been shown reading, look at the Theme song for example.

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May 10, 2013 19:11:53 GMT -5 Russell said:

They've been shown reading, look at the Theme song for example.

They're pretty smart animals in general that's for sure

[Biskit Sprinkles]

May 10, 2013 12:56:52 GMT -5 Zatchiel said:

It's a cartoon. I know it's insulting to the audience as well as the medium to say such, but yeah. There is very little explained for how the pets can do what they do or get what they get. Like, how would people react to a panda, tiptoeing around, ribbon dancing with actual grace? Or a mongoose that can perform various feats of magic, including vanishing acts?

The show has very little pragmatic value outside of the lessons and whatnot, most cartoons are guilty of this as well. As for how they got all of the stuff in Frenemies, it's not explained because it isn't considered vital to what the episode was set to convey. Learning that they were too headforemost to consider that it was their friend's party doesn't really require mentioning how they got all of what they had. Would've been hilarious if Blythe or someone else asked where all of the supplies came from, though.

I wouldn't say that the Baxters are rich. They are presumably at least middle class, don't know enough about the others.

There's usually very small practical applicability to most cartoons, because surrealism is typically the most prominent attribute of cartoons as a whole. I'm not opposing you for asking questions or anything, but I figured I should be first to say this.

You are very correct. But still, despite being aware (or should be aware) that it's just a cartoon, it's still fun to expand on things. q:

[Ha ha ha!]

May 10, 2013 19:58:05 GMT -5 Biskit Sprinkles said:

May 10, 2013 12:56:52 GMT -5 Zatchiel said:

It's a cartoon. I know it's insulting to the audience as well as the medium to say such, but yeah. There is very little explained for how the pets can do what they do or get what they get. Like, how would people react to a panda, tiptoeing around, ribbon dancing with actual grace? Or a mongoose that can perform various feats of magic, including vanishing acts?

The show has very little pragmatic value outside of the lessons and whatnot, most cartoons are guilty of this as well. As for how they got all of the stuff in Frenemies, it's not explained because it isn't considered vital to what the episode was set to convey. Learning that they were too headforemost to consider that it was their friend's party doesn't really require mentioning how they got all of what they had. Would've been hilarious if Blythe or someone else asked where all of the supplies came from, though.

I wouldn't say that the Baxters are rich. They are presumably at least middle class, don't know enough about the others.

There's usually very small practical applicability to most cartoons, because surrealism is typically the most prominent attribute of cartoons as a whole. I'm not opposing you for asking questions or anything, but I figured I should be first to say this.

You are very correct. But still, despite being aware (or should be aware) that it's just a cartoon, it's still fun to expand on things. q:

I completly agree with you on that Biskit Sprinkles my friend

[Russell]

It is nice to expand on things. As of they have been shown reading things and writing things so i'm confused about that.

[Zatchiel]

May 10, 2013 17:45:00 GMT -5 guillermogage said:

It's just that most people cannot literally communicate verbally to the animals, and for some reason the animals cannot write (there's no solid example of them reading, from what I recall). So Blythe is someone who knows a fuller extent of the intelligence that animals have from being able to literally converse with them.

Russell is shown to be able to write various times throughout season one, hence the clipboard he tends to use for writing on and organization of ideas or questions. From there, it is self-evident that he can read at least some recitable language, that may or may not be be written English. It is also strongly implied that he can read English in Russell Up Some Fun, to what I can recollect; he had a book that he referred to in justifying his impeding of the other's amusement. There are most likely other instances, but I can't think straight right now. Russell just comes to my mind on intuition, I suppose.

As for that last part, it's to our knowledge that she has the furthest understanding of animal intelligence. And a lot comes from the ability to communicate on the level that Blythe is able to. She can unequivocally know or understand what the pets are going through, and has been shown in various episodes to be able to empathize with their feelings and offer her input to them directly.

May 10, 2013 19:58:05 GMT -5 Biskit Sprinkles said:

You are very correct. But still, despite being aware (or should be aware) that it's just a cartoon, it's still fun to expand on things. q:

I didn't state or insinuate against that. I said that I felt I should be the first to mentioned the cartoon thing, because it's pretty much the dismal premise of the argument on surreal happenings and instances when it comes to cartoons in general. Of course it's fun to make observations and form logical assumptions/headcanons. But when you question the surrealistic medium or apply logic to certain aspects of a cartoon like this, you're most likely just going to get shrugs and farfetched guesses, in the context of LPS.

But then, there's a thing called inference. Take for instance, the whole question of the supplies in Frenemies. Did their owners provide it? Unlikely. We know it's a *day* camp. If the pets are there, or supposed to be there, their owners are preoccupied, as far as we are aware of. That said, how would Zoe and Pepper's owners be able to get all of that supplies such short notice? How would they even be believably informed? I doubt they'd be able to keep straight faces if Blythe states that their pets told her that they need supplies for their respective plans. So the idea of them being to thank isn't just unfounded, it's currently unfoundable. There hasn't been anyone shown to understand or believe that Blythe can talk to animals in season 1, so I doubt Zoe and Pepper's respective owner(s) are any exception.

Did Blythe go through the trouble to buy them the stuff? If I remember correctly, she was surprised when she saw both Zoe and Pepper's preparations, so that goes to construe that she was herself inquisitive of how they got all of what they had. If I am mistaken, I don't think she'd shell out money to either Zoe or Pepper for their ideas without getting their combined opinion or decision. That, or Blythe is inconsiderate, taking only the word of one of them as all the reason necessary to invest in a particular idea, twice. That's stupid, considering the themes of the two ideas were essentially opposites.

What do I think? I'm willing to assume that they at least got the baked goods and such from Sweet Delights. As for the more questionable stuff (a hay bail, a presumably small bull riding simulator, etc), I have no clue. Do I want to settle on the fact that it's a cartoon? Never. But it's pretty clear why I have to, unless I want to form audacious beliefs of my own, because it hasn't been, and may never be, explained on the show itself. We're left to just deducing by what we have.

Not trying to sound likea douche, incidentally, to either of you. D=

[Biskit Sprinkles]

Well said, Zatchiel. And don't worry, you're not being a douche at all.

I completely understand where you're coming from. People simply shouldn't take cartoons seriously, and I certainly, like many other fans, understand the boundaries between fiction and reality. But as an extremely analytical person who enjoys being such, it's fun to make sense of ridiculous things. Even if it is as silly as a cartoon for little kids. But as I said before, it's just a fun thing some fans like to do.

Not trying to argue here, and you probably aren't either.