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Post by Methid Man on Jul 26, 2014 10:59:25 GMT -5
Okay, I thought this episode had some very enjoyable scenes, but I didn't like the premise of either plot. The human plot has the Biskits seperated over a slight difference in grades and Britney decides to hang out with Blythe and the gang thinking that hanging with the "smart" kids is where she "belongs". Blythe and her friends are annoyed at this so they try to get the twins together. The pet plot has two koala cousins (both with stereotypical redneck accents, weird considering koalas are Australian) in a feud with each other over something they can't even remember feuding about. They randomly choose which pets will be on their sides and they rile them up against each other.
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Like I said, I don't like either of the plot ideas... I understand Blythe and her friends don't like the Biskits, but couldn't they have at least seen this as an opportunity to reform one of them? I think it would've made for a better episode if they welcomed Britney into the group and attempted to make her into a better person and instead she ends up sucking at it. If they wanted to go back to the status quo at the end they could've had her find out that hanging out with the "smart" kids isn't so great for her after all and then decide to crawl her way back to her other half. But no, it had to be about team Blythe putting up with or trying to avoid her. I liked the scene where Blythe thrashes around in a skateboard and lands in the dumpster, but it was only to get the twins to laugh at her together so they could get back together again. Again, I enjoyed a lot of the scenes but the reason behind what makes them happen kinda ruins it for me in a way.
I also don't like that the human plot is the seemingly dominant one in this episode. We have a few too many human scenes here. On the bright side, at least the Biskits are less jerky and more funny, I give this episode credit for that.
Now onto the pet plot... Okay, I liked the food fight scene and I liked the space scene where Vinnie and Sunil discuss what the hell is going on with the feud. Again, plenty of hilarity which is a plus from me, but everything that leads to it kinda leaves a sour aftertaste. I didn't like how the pets were just randomly chosen on different sides based on who happened to be on what side of the room when the koalas made their little border. What I think would've worked better is if the koalas forced the pets to choose sides and that could've served as the source of the conflict as well as an important moral. In the end, the koalas realize that they can't even remember what it was they were fighting over...and they make up. Nice to see them hug and all but it's just stupid how it's resolved.
This review makes me sound like I hate this episode. Don't get me wrong, I actually did enjoy much of what I saw in this episode. I just didn't like the plot premises and it could've had less human scenes.
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Post by penny82ling on Jul 26, 2014 11:18:31 GMT -5
Well this was a step back from last week's episode I expected that, but more of a step back that I would like, but not a terrible episode. It is like a bumpy car ride, you get there and no real dammage. It is like every few moments they did something to irritate me, but not enough to make me hate the episode.
Let's get this out, JASPER IS BACK, JASPER IS BACK, NO NO NOOOOOOOOO!, GOD DAM IT TH PARTY IS OVER. Okay I got that out of the way, I do have some serious grips when it comes to that, more on that later.
I though the pet plot was predictable, and kind of dragged. The guest pets didn't excite me, I love that Sunil and Vinnie got focused, the whole part of the pets getting dragged into the feuds, reminds me of the Avatar: The Last Airbender episode "The Great Divide", I always say the world would be better if more cartoons can try to be more like Avatar: The Last Airbender, but LPS chooses to be like the worst episode of A:TLA, okay but it wasn't too bad.
Now the Blythe plot, two things they did terribly wrong that they stopped in season 3 and they went back to their old bad ways. First of all, the pets were not involved at all in the plot, it was humans, even in "Some Assistance Required" Blythe plot had Cairo involved, you should always have a pet involved in someway even if it is not the 7 main pets.
And second of all, Jasper and Sue are back. No just no, I have no problem with them being extras, or background characters that have a scence and maybe a couple of lines. But they should not have important roles anymore, they are interferring with one of the elements of the human side of the show that I like, that is Blythe and Youngmee friendship, they make a great duo, I like their chemistry as characters, I am real excited about "Secret Recipe" hopefully there relationship well get that big development in that episode with you know what, anyway Sue and Jasper we don't need them mucking it up. We don't need a Larry and Elmyra to this duo. On the bright side we find out Youngmee's parents are alive. This plot was suppose to be a follow up to Blythe messing the ammusement park between season 1 and season 2, so I guess they were needed, hopefully this is a one thing. I am serious I don't want them interferring with the Blythe / Youngmee duo. Why can't they just move away.
And now onto the Biskits, they were okay. I am disappointed we couldn't follow up more on "Doorjammed" with either Brittany having her turn to bond with Blythe, or more of Blythe and Whittney bonding. I didn't like how they resolved this plot, it should have ended with Blythe talking to Whittney and tell her she should be proud of Brittany's grade and being smart is not a bad thing, and also tell Brittany not rub it in Whittany when she gets a better grade, and have the Bisktis realise knowledge is not the enemy. It is a shame they think that.
On the bright side, and I am full of bright sides today, I liked the scene when Blythe made the Biskits laugh, I thought the way the Biskits laughed at first, it does show that deep down they like Blythe and her antics, and like we saw in "Hamster Hoods", it appears to me the three of them are friends deep down, they just don't either know it or too stubbern to admit it.
And I loved the science class thing, seeing Brittany in lab coat was somthing to see, she looked cute, and what she did to Jasper, hillarous. Stuff like that happening to Jasper never gets old.
And the whole premese of feuds, I wonder if that is forshadowing to the LPS vs LEPS arc and Mrs. T and Fisher's pity feud.
So yeah this episode made a lot of mistakes, a big step back from the greatness of season 3, but it was still overal good or in the spirit of a theme of this episode passable.
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Post by Shokew on Jul 26, 2014 11:38:07 GMT -5
Regarding "Feud for Thought"...
Sigh... I know BOTH Adam Beechen and Roger Eschbacher can do better than this, especially when it's nothing to do with those two idiots... All I can do is sigh in disappointment at the time spent harping on this... and I thought last weeks felt flawed out the ass, despite not being as terrible as I thought it would be to begin with...
I'm being blunt - if I were to watch this a 2nd time, my opinion won't likely change... I just felt the whole way through that this was a bad idea from the start.
This break from those two idiots next week better be worth it, because right now I rank this week, and last week as well, below Secret Cupet (which is not a good sign, writers!), due to simply being either bad ideas or ideas whose potential to be good were ultimately faltered... Whether on paper on in practice.
And to think we had such decently good to spectacular episodes before this week and last week... Even if just IMHO, too!
And THIS is also why this show is likely getting cancelled - YOU. STUPID. WRITERS. Nobody wants to put up with this kind of disappointment anymore or even to begin with.
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Post by penny82ling on Jul 26, 2014 11:53:21 GMT -5
And to think we had such decently good to spectacular episodes before this week and last week... Even if just IMHO, too! And THIS is also why this show is likely getting cancelled - YOU. STUPID. WRITERS. Nobody wants to put up with this kind of disappointment anymore or even to begin with. The show is getting canceled where you hear that? It is the second most popular show on Hub Network, the toys are selling well, they rerun the show mulitple times a day, they are making shorts. If it is getting canceled, maybe Hub Network should fold. If this was getting the Legend Of Korra and have all future episodes moved online, than I might see your point. |
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Post by guillermogage on Jul 26, 2014 12:16:19 GMT -5
I see that some people really dislike aspects of this episode, but here is my opinion:
While watching the episode (I generally do not look up episode synopses and look away from the descriptions when I select them on a TV or website)...
I was worrying about if both plots would be about stupid arbitrary conflicts that aren't really about anything, reminding me about the Seinfeld catchphrase that I've heard about "It's a show about nothing"
But, I ended up being really impressed by the raw, quotable humor in both plots, and I figure that the minimalistic conflict, especially in the pet plot, helped give time to focus on the humor.
One problem with this is that it makes it all the more obvious that they could've added more humor, could've went the extra mile with humor in the pet plot seeing that the conflict was so barebones. But I suspect that they failed to add more screentime/fantasy sequences/ slaptick weird quotes to the pet plot due to needing to focus on the human plot.
And I'm not sure if they could've gotten away with shortening the human plot in favor of the pet plot.
One option, and this is something they've never done before in the middle of a season, would be to have this episode be a two-parter, with more extensive investigation about the koala conflict, and with more advanced planning/manipulating of the Blythe group, with an ending in which we actually see cool carnival hijinks at the Dock.
I think that this could really be an interesting new format for some episodes of the show. Whether the Hub Network can do two episodes in one day, like they do for the traditional two-parters, would remain to be seen. I wonder if they could pull off having kids be left on a cliffhanger... I reckon that, since the types of plots I am describing would not be nail-biting epic season openers or finales, that maybe it wouldn't be too hard on people, especially kids, to wait the next week to see the conclusion.
Or maybe they would just stick to back-to-back two-parters and take off an MLPFiM rerun, especially when MLPFiM is in an offseason anyway.
This episode actually made me laugh out loud, something that this show almost never actually does. My laugh even sounded unfamiliar to me.
I laughed out loud when Brittany physically marched over to the boys who thought they were being called "the smart kids" and violently shoved them offscreen. That was Sharukh levels of douchebaggery that is actually funny, and the animation of her marching over was actually very exquisite. I also liked it when the Blythe group ran into each other trying to get away, immediately after that shove scene.
I also like the Brittany line "Ew. Science is gross." This show has done so many far-out things recently that I seriously thought that Jasper had mutated new eyes, Before it just turned out to be a slime monster that harmlessly crawled off his face.
And as for Jasper, I actually think that he was pretty okay in this episode, and that this is the type of direction they could be taking with him. I didn't even think that him blurting out "We're going to the Dock" was an overly dumb thing really. It could just be a personal problem that he has sometimes.
Sue Patterson's characterization/personality is every bit as bad, all I can remember about her off the top of my head is her story in "Russell Up Some Fun" where she imitates Blythe's style.
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Post by Methid Man on Jul 26, 2014 12:21:50 GMT -5
And to think we had such decently good to spectacular episodes before this week and last week... Even if just IMHO, too! And THIS is also why this show is likely getting cancelled - YOU. STUPID. WRITERS. Nobody wants to put up with this kind of disappointment anymore or even to begin with. The show is getting canceled where you hear that? It is the second most popular show on Hub Network, the toys are selling well, they rerun the show mulitple times a day, they are making shorts. If it is getting canceled, maybe Hub Network should fold. If this was getting the Legend Of Korra and have all future episodes moved online, than I might see your point. I agree, if the show really was facing cancellation, I don't think it would be getting the treatment it's been getting lately. I have a feeling this show may stick around a little longer. Besides, you need to remember that despite what we adults think, we're not the target audience. It all depends on whether the kids are watching. This episode may have been terrible in your opinion but considering all the cool scenes it did have, I think a lot of kids enjoyed it. I know my niece did; she was watching this episode with me and laughed at quite a lot of scenes. |
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Post by penny82ling on Jul 26, 2014 12:23:12 GMT -5
Despite some of its other faults, I would like this episode much more if it wasn't for Sue and Jasper, they brought the episode down for me.
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Post by Shokew on Jul 26, 2014 13:06:13 GMT -5
Look.....
@ Everyone who responded to me.....
I over exaggerated, I'll admit - it's just that this episode just pissed me off, overall - I don't feel a re - watch could even help matters like it did for earlier episodes like before that I won't say names of.
I just really, really hate NOT seeing those twins get hurt when they deserve it, like they did here. Team Blythe acted way too passive - aggressive here, making them look like idiotic wusses. In a much better show - those twins would have suffered an ass kicking, a la Regular Show. That's what made this episode induce so much anger in me. If they had been suffering frequently, like in say "Heart of Parkness" (that episode perfectly shows at least me the kind of treatment annoying characters deserve sometimes, if not in general like IRL!), this would have worked a lot more. That, and more screen time, or at least a better general plot for the real stars (the pets) than whatever the hell that was.
...And I know I'm not making things better (for myself), either - I just want to see those two less and see those who deserve it get more screen time, for the betterment of this show, going forward. I hope that's not too much to ask.
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Post by penny82ling on Jul 26, 2014 13:12:34 GMT -5
Look..... @ Everyone who responded to me..... I over exaggerated, I'll admit - it's just that this episode just pissed me off, overall - I don't feel a re - watch could even help matters like it did for earlier episodes like before that I won't say names of. I just really, really hate NOT seeing those twins get hurt when they deserve it, like they did here. Team Blythe acted way too passive - aggressive here, making them look like idiotic wusses. In a much better show - those twins would have suffered an ass kicking, a la Regular Show. That's what made this episode induce so much anger in me. If they had been suffering frequently, like in say "Heart of Parkness" (that episode perfectly shows at least me the kind of treatment annoying characters deserve sometimes, if not in general like IRL!), this would have worked a lot more. That, and more screen time, or at least a better general plot for the real stars (the pets) than whatever the hell that was. Well calm down dude. You want the twins to get physical hurt? Why not have Blythe kill them while you are it? If you want Blythe to slug someone that is never going to happen. Short of someone physically threaten someone she cares about like poachers trreating the pets, that is not going to happen. That would be so out of character of her to do something like that. |
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Post by Methid Man on Jul 26, 2014 13:34:55 GMT -5
Blythe could give the Biskits some comeuppance without it resorting to serious violence. She could just plop something on their heads the way Pepper sometimes whacks Vinnie's head with a rubber chicken. Something like that wouldn't be too out of line with this show.
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Post by penny82ling on Jul 26, 2014 13:42:02 GMT -5
Personnel I am satisfied witht he comeuppings they got in the "Expo Factor", they were terrible in that episode and Blythe gave them what they deserved. And since than they have not even tried to mess with Blythe. I like to think of that as their ultimate defeat and they know not to mess with Blythe anymore.
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Post by Zexoguy on Jul 26, 2014 18:14:20 GMT -5
This episode's biggest strength was definitely its humor. It had a lot of funny moments: Sunil's hat fantasy, the blob with mutant eyes on Jasper's face (I actually thought that was real for a moment), Vinnie as a "watch captain," and Zoe's "HOW DARE THEY!!!" I also loved the epiphany moment with Vinnie and Sunil floating on the moon.
I also appreciated the historical reference to the Hatfield's and the McCoy's.
I did think it was pretty dumb that the pets actually believed each of the koalas when they said how the ones on the other side insulted them. Like, how could they for a second believe that their friends would say anything like that against them, let alone trust the words of two pets who they know hate each other?
As for Blythe's friends, it looks like Youngmee does in fact live with her parents, for those of us who thought Aunt Christie might be her legal guardian. I don't really mind Jasper, especially considering that Vinnie is my favorite male pet. This show's portrayal of boys is often rather unflattering anyway (except for Josh). And Sue was just... Sue. Nothing really special. She and Jasper have each had one episode dedicated to them, but they haven't really given us much since then. I don't really mind, though. Just because they're not the strongest characters, doesn't mean they deserve to be hated.
Overall, I think this episode was pretty decent. The pet plot was pretty much more interesting than the Blythe plot this time around and I don't see anything wrong with that.
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Post by penny82ling on Jul 26, 2014 18:30:14 GMT -5
Am I the only one who got confused by the synophis.
Brittany ignore Whittany after she score higher marks on a test.
I thought the "she" was referring to Whittany, which I thought didn't make much sense, but after seeing the episode and finding the "she" was Brittany it made sense. Whittany I always was slightly more intelligent, the leader of the duo, the brains of the outfit, etc. So Brittany seemingly smarter than Whittany would cause an inbalience and them to fight.
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Post by penny82ling on Jul 27, 2014 10:19:01 GMT -5
Watching this episode a second time, I noticed some parts I thought were hillarous and want to mention them. Vinnie the time master, that is hillarous I loved it. The facial expression that Blythe and Brittany made when that stuff blow up in Jasper face, watch it closely it is exactly the same at the same time, Blythe and Brittany were exactly on the same page for a moment and Zoey's raction to be told wihtout makeup she looks hidaous. The voice she made that was scary hillarous.
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Post by penny82ling on Aug 2, 2014 10:29:29 GMT -5
"Fish Out Of Water"
What an episode, I did say it would be a daring thing to do and kill off the guest pet and teach about death, this episode was enjoyable, a big step up from last week.
The pet plot was great, the goldfish was cool. I like the song, it is okay, not as good as the song in "Tongue Tied" "Sleeper" and the song we will see in "The Secret Recipe". I love all those sewer characters, be cool if we had a turtle appear like a refrence to TMNT. Ha ha.
As for the Blythe, when I heard LEPS meaning the Biskits are going to be in this episode, I was worried, I am a big Biskit fan, but even I admit 4 episodes in a row with the Biskits that is too much, the Biskits work best in small doses, you need a breather in between episodes, 2 episodes in a row is okay, but nothing past that, but here there role is small like "War Of The Weird", so it doesn't really count. Plus Cashmere and Velvet, that is a win in itself and the ending, I will get to that later. Also great to see Blythe and Youngmee interaction, but Youngmee please as they said on a old show called You Can't Do That On Television, don't encourage her.
Nice to see Zoey and Minka attitude towards LEPS, they act like it is a normal pet shop, not hell on earth like the show tried to act like it was in season 1. LEPS is a rivial pet shop, not an evil pet shop, I am glad they are going away from that aspect of the show that they had before.
I thought Blythe was going to be more stockerish, but is too creepy like Sue was in "Russell Up Some Fun". Though the Biskits liking Josh, is Josh is starting to get a harem, and his personality is like a anime harem protagonist, dull no personality. It is okay if Blythe likes him, but I don't every girl in the school to like him, please tone it down. Like I thought Josh gets fired, I thought Blythe would get him fired, but that is not the case, though part of me it would be cool to have a Romeo and Julliet aspet to the LPS vs LEPS, if Josh continued to work there, I don't Mrs. T would be cool with Blythe flaternishing with the enemy.
I was going to say this episode was okay, but that ending, the Madision cameo that just made it for me. Fisher Biskit that poor man, LEPS won't survive this. You can survive with just Madison like LPS did, you can survive with just the Biskit twins like LEPS has, but put those three together OMG, poor Fisher. I kind of what to see that, who can out dumb who? I put my money on Madison winning the competition of stupidness. In other words the Biskits are less dumb. Perhaps Mrs. Twombry encourage Madison to hang around LEPS as part of her scheme to take down LEPS from the inside.
The Biskits they have no idea what they are in for, I don't care how much you hate the Biskits, you have to feel sorry for them, for what they are about to go through, the old term wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy rings true here. Ha ha.
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